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  1. auc1978 said:

    USMLE attempts

    is there a limit on how many times we can fail step1???
    i just got my score today and i am sad to say that i have failed my third attempt.. i will try again but will auc withdraw students due to repeated failures/?? i am scared..help
    thx
     
  2. tRmedic21 said:

    Ummmm

    I don't think AUC can de-certify you to take the exam, at least, not without a major hassle, and they would probably have to submit alot of paperwork to do it.... let's face it, they already said you were eligible, how can they then come back and say you aren't without providing some kind of proof of ineligibility? The ECFMG folks will let you take the exam as many times as you want, but no more than 3 times in 1 12-month period.

    You should look into which states have limits, too, some of them will not license you if it took you more than a certain number of attempts to pass the exam.

    Also, a big problem may be this..... if you spend more than 2 semesters out of classes at AUC to take the exam (which I am assuming you already have, if you have taken it 3 times), you have to re-take the 5th semester over again before you can start clinicals. At least.... this is what they have told us.... so you may need to plan a trip back to SXM to repeat Semester 5 once you get your passing score (hopefully next try!).
     
  3. Neuro4u said:

    USMLE answer on attempts

    Most of the schools have a limit of passing within the second or third attempt or dismissal from the program.


    I know some other students with this problem and they transferred to St. Christophter because they do not require you pass any exams for clinicals or even graduation. Therefore, students in your situation transfer and worry about the exams later.

    St. Eustatius will not allow you to do clinicals without passing step 1 but they will sometimes allow you to do one clinical. St. Eustatius has an attempt of 2 times I think, but I know they have a limit or you are dismissed from the school.

    I know a Saba student who passed after the 4th attempt and was able to continue doing clinicals, so I do not believe the have a limit but you may want to check.

    IUHS does not require you to take the USMLE, but I would not recommend anyone to this school because you might not get a medical license.

    There are many St. Chris students who are doing clinicals without passing any of the USMLE exams. Also, CAHSU does not require passing any exams.

    But if you have pass step 1 and get it behind you, that is the best thing you can do.

    If you have more than 3 attempts on the USMLE then you will never get a Texas license, Florida also has a limit. Many states do have limits on attempts for license. In Alaska you must pass on the first attempt.

    Good Luck.
     
  4. sweetmia81 said:

    USMLE answer on attempts

    Quote Originally Posted by Neuro4u
    I know some other students with this problem and they transferred to St. Christophter because they do not require you pass any exams for clinicals or even graduation. Therefore, students in your situation transfer and worry about the exams later.
    oh yea silly me i forgot to mention St Chris students get the MD without the USMLE, so come on down, you are the next contestant on the price is right
    (aside from what i wrote that was dripping with sarcasm, SC, as many other school, have clinical sights that may not require USMLE, but eventually you need to take it, and I would not wait long after clinicals, I would take it ASAP so the material is fresh)
    Cindy
    Rutgers University-Newark College of Arts and Sciences- Alumni
     
  5. wsu said:

    re: Not Good

    Hello Auc-

    Unfortunately, failing 3 times as an IMG is not good.

    Besides the school issue of possible dissimal, obtaining a US residency will now be put into question.

    Some may argue that its not a big deal. But, I differ and would seriously start thinking of my fuure plans.

    Now, doing very well on the boards is a necessity more than ever for you.

    Take note that there is no guarantte in obtaining a US resideny and failing 3 times on such an important exam does not help your cause.
     
  6. Art Vandelay said:

    re: Not Good

    Quote Originally Posted by wsu
    Hello Auc-

    Unfortunately, failing 3 times as an IMG is not good.

    Besides the school issue of possible dissimal, obtaining a US residency will now be put into question.

    Some may argue that its not a big deal. But, I differ and would seriously start thinking of my fuure plans.

    Now, doing very well on the boards is a necessity more than ever for you.

    Take note that there is no guarantte in obtaining a US resideny and failing 3 times on such an important exam does not help your cause.
    Isn't it true that in your ECFMG transcript there's no mentioning of the number of attempts you have done to pass the boards? At least this is what I heard. So if the PDs don't ask for an official USMLE transcript from NBME how do they know how many times you fail an step? Just wondering.
    Art Vandelay
    Vandelay Industries, Inc.
    "Specialized in Latex Gloves & Really Big, Long Matches"
     
  7. wsu said:

    ECFMG does not send your score record; USMLE does

    Hello Art-

    As to your question, its not the case that the ECFMG will send your USMLE scores to ERAS/NRMP anymore.

    The USMLE requires that you submit $50 to have your score record sent to ERAS/NRMP. IN the score record, is the number of attempts and dates and ERAS will only accept records from USMLE.

    I suggest that you read the necessary paperwork and you'll find that I am correct.

    Good luck and hope that helps.
     
  8. A.H. said:

    USMLE

    AUC1978-

    Take a review course and pass this time.

    Then do well in clinicals and get good letters of REC and pass Step 2 on the FIRST ATTEMPT. That will make up four step 1. You'll have to go into IM, family, peds or psych for sure now and at an uncompetitive place, but you will get a job if you do the above. Thousands of spots go to true IMGs and you'll get on those positions.
     
  9. Art Vandelay said:

    ECFMG does not send your score record; USMLE does

    Quote Originally Posted by wsu
    Hello Art-

    As to your question, its not the case that the ECFMG will send your USMLE scores to ERAS/NRMP anymore.

    The USMLE requires that you submit $50 to have your score record sent to ERAS/NRMP. IN the score record, is the number of attempts and dates and ERAS will only accept records from USMLE.

    I suggest that you read the necessary paperwork and you'll find that I am correct.

    Good luck and hope that helps.
    thanks wsu...I didn't know the rule has changed.

    To auc1978...take A.H.'s advice and you can still make it...don't be discouraged!
    Art Vandelay
    Vandelay Industries, Inc.
    "Specialized in Latex Gloves & Really Big, Long Matches"
     
  10. tRmedic21 said:

    Dear WSU....

    This poster came here asking a specific question. You gave him/her a lecture on how tough his/her life was going to be. I fail to see how this is relevant, constructive, or helpful in any way. Do you think that this person (who has already made it through the first two years of med school, mind you) doesn't know the points you brought up? Do you think they haven't thought of how difficult it is going to be?

    Don't get me wrong, I agree that this is a place of free speech (within limits, of course), but I am merely giving my personal opinion that I found your comments unnecessarily harsh and not helpful at all. We should be here to support and encourage each other. Sometimes a bit of "tough love" is what we all need, but I just didn't see the need for you to bring up these kinds of things, which have been covered in every single forum ad nauseum, and which we (as FMGs/future FMGs) have had beat into our heads for years already.

    Not only that, but I found your comments a bit overly pessimistic, as well. I realize as an FMG, it is harder, but think of the dozens and hundreds of FP, IM, Peds, and Psych spots that go unfilled every year. Of course, you're not going to be competitive for many of the spots, but from all I have learned over 2 years of researching this is that if you PASS, you WILL find a spot, somewhere (providing you aren't snobbishly picky, as some of my colleagues are). Of course, your options are limited, but implying that someone will NEVER land a residency in the US is irresponsible and unfounded, in my eyes. I would like to see some kind of proof if this is indeed true. Sure, some states will be off-limits, and more programs will be, as well. But you can still do it.

    Original poster, hold your head up high and work your tail off. You can do it! You have made it through the basic sciences! You can pass this exam, AND land a residency spot, in my opinion! Just the fact that you were willing to come here and share your painful truth with us shows you still have not given up. I hope you don't! Do what you need to do, take a review course, pass the test, get a residency position, then when you finish, thumb your nose at all the naysayers out there who told you that you were going to be stuck practicing medicine in a foreign country or picking up trash in the US.

    Good luck to you, and thank you for helping warn us that it can happen to anyone!
     
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