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  1. J.MD said:

    2015 Saba Grad Willing to Answering Questions ...

    Hello All,

    Just graduated Saba and matched into University IM program. Willing to answer any questions anyone may have about the school.

    Saba has been one of the best experiences of my life and has definitely opened doors for me.

    Good luck.
     
  2. paperboy123 said:
    Quote Originally Posted by J.MD View Post
    Hello All,

    Just graduated Saba and matched into University IM program. Willing to answer any questions anyone may have about the school.

    Saba has been one of the best experiences of my life and has definitely opened doors for me.

    Good luck.

    HI. been considering Saba. I wanted to hear some recent reviews about it since much of past posts are outdated.
    1. Is it a good medical school as in did you feel prepared for rotations and are teachers any good?
    2. how good are Saba clinical sites ( are there enough sites for students, are rotations easy to get, are there a lot of choices since there is only a partial list online, are there many sites in New york, is the whole scheduling of cores and elective by saba simple or all over the place that you end up having huge gaps
    3. hows the island? Friendly? are the dorms any good? recommendations?
    4. how difficult was it for you to get residency interviews/ acceptances as a IMG in particular SABA graduate?
    5. If you can estimate an over cost for Saba including tuition, and housing for all years including rotations on avg what would it be like ball park? 180K?

    Thank you and congratulations Doctor
     
  3. J.MD said:
    Quote Originally Posted by paperboy123 View Post
    HI. been considering Saba. I wanted to hear some recent reviews about it since much of past posts are outdated.
    1. Is it a good medical school as in did you feel prepared for rotations and are teachers any good?
    2. how good are Saba clinical sites ( are there enough sites for students, are rotations easy to get, are there a lot of choices since there is only a partial list online, are there many sites in New york, is the whole scheduling of cores and elective by saba simple or all over the place that you end up having huge gaps
    3. hows the island? Friendly? are the dorms any good? recommendations?
    4. how difficult was it for you to get residency interviews/ acceptances as a IMG in particular SABA graduate?
    5. If you can estimate an over cost for Saba including tuition, and housing for all years including rotations on avg what would it be like ball park? 180K?

    Thank you and congratulations Doctor
    Thanks!


    1)
    I considered SABA an opportunity to get your "foot in the door" with a chance at becoming a doctor. I came to SABA as a last resort (having screwed up royally in college, as my basketball coach once told me- "had my head up my ****" - and piss poor MCAT). Therefore, DO schools and US MD schools were out of the question. So, in essence, I had my back to the wall. From that perspective, I thought SABA was sufficient, meaning it gave you that chance. As for the teachers, with every school you go to, you'll have good profs and pretty crummy profs. I ended up having to study a lot on my own (there are plenty of resources)- and it worked out fine. I felt they did an okay job preparing for my rotations and Step 1, but a lot of it was what I put in, I got out of it/ the rotations.

    Keep in mind the attrition rate was fairly high, so be prepared to go in 200+%.

    2) I thought the SABA clinical sites (with the exception of a few) were sufficient. One of the main clinical sites we had was affiliated with Yale, so when you get letters of recommendation, it'll have the Yale-New Haven letterhead. Electives, you have the opportunity to search for your own electives and with good board scores, you can get pretty awesome rotations in various locations throughout the US. I recommend branching out and doing rotations in many different hospitals to help you network later on to obtain more interviews for residency.

    There were enough sites for students, but sometimes you'll have to wait to get a certain rotation. It helps if you are flexible with your travels, as I ended up doing rotations ALL over the US and by having that flexibility, I was able to do my core rotations pretty much back to back. There used to be some bad *** rotations in New York (eg Beth Israel, Albert Einstein for electives), but we still have a bunch of clinical sites in NYC. St Georges has a foothold on pretty much most of the rotations in NYC so its sort of hard to branch out of NYC with the exception of a few other hospitals. You might have to be a bit more proactive to get rotations at certain hospitals.

    Your core rotations are setup by SABA and its not bad at all, as long as you don't get on the administration's bad side. Electives you'll have to search yourself, but that's where the fun comes in. You can chose different cities, have fun, and network! The one recommendation I can say is, write your Step in a timely fashion, BUT don't compromise your score what-so-ever.

    3) The island was amazing! Everyone has a different opinion. But if you come on the island, not afraid of being homesick and ready to explore, the island was amazing. Very friendly people, felt very safe (compared to St Martin), and very clean. There's lots to do on the island in terms of hiking and snorkling and has one of the world's best scuba diving. However, there are no permanent beaches (beaches wash on shore occasionally). I think when I was leaving the island, they built a man-made beach near the airport. Dorms are very convenient your first year, just don't get too caught up in the partying. study hard party hard don't fail. I stayed at Hillside and thought it was great (24 hour A/C - which after 1st semester you will never get)

    4) If you are a US-IMG it wasn't too difficult to get interviews. I didn't get many university interviews, however, got a LOT of community hospital with universit affiliation interviews. I know it was tough for a lot of CANADA-Non-US IMGs to match. I applied to a ridiculous amount of programs 200+ and got over 20 interviews at a rate of 10%. My board scores werent stellar, so obviously, higher the board scores - the easier to get interviews.

    5) Tuition was about 120k at the time, I would say ball park <200K which is pretty awesome compared to the other carribean schools.


    Extra: Once you leave the island, the one advice I can say is - having a plan - in terms of when you're going to take the step and when you'll take your kaplan CS and write the actually step 2 CS and when you'll write your step 2 CK. Ideally to obtain the most amount of interviews, you want to have your step 2 CK and CS written before you apply in September for residency. I know people who got screwed because they scheduled the Kaplan CS way too late, and therefore couldn't write the Step 2 CS in time or schedule it in time before September. You do NOT want to be on that boat. Also, you do NOT want >3 month gap between exams or rotations. They will ask you about that during your interviews.

    Good Luck! Let me know if you have any other questions, or things aren't clear on ^^
     
  4. J.MD said:
    Some further enlightening news:

    2015 match - there were 615 new residency spots that opened up.

    Compared to last year - the # of IMG who matched decreased by 55, despite the increase in new spots. However, there were also less IMGs who applied this year. The relative % of IMG who matched was same compared to last year at 50.9%

    # of Non-US IMG who obtained residency spots actually Increased in 2015 compared to 2014, by 8 spots!

    Surprisingly, the US-IMG who obtained residency decreased by 62 from last year.

    Fun facts.
     
  5. paperboy123 said:
    Quote Originally Posted by J.MD View Post
    Some further enlightening news:

    2015 match - there were 615 new residency spots that opened up.

    Compared to last year - the # of IMG who matched decreased by 55, despite the increase in new spots. However, there were also less IMGs who applied this year. The relative % of IMG who matched was same compared to last year at 50.9%

    # of Non-US IMG who obtained residency spots actually Increased in 2015 compared to 2014, by 8 spots!

    Surprisingly, the US-IMG who obtained residency decreased by 62 from last year.

    Fun facts.
    Wow. Thank you for all the info. I def. appreciate it and I'm sure many more will too considering not much recent info on Saba is on value md. I'm considering Saba and SGU. With a possibility of taking the new MCAT haha. I'm glad to hear such positive things about Saba. Rarely have I read anything negative about Saba on this forum.i have to admit though...I am nervous of being homesick. Not so much about the partying considering my dance moves never did me any favors in the past anyways . All joking aside although I am interested in internal med, I'm shooting for ophthalmology which is crazy comp. I've found a few residencies that have accepted img in the past or current img but they are SGU or Ross . No Saba....but yea I agree it's what you put in. Thank you again
     
  6. J.MD said:
    Quote Originally Posted by paperboy123 View Post
    Wow. Thank you for all the info. I def. appreciate it and I'm sure many more will too considering not much recent info on Saba is on value md. I'm considering Saba and SGU. With a possibility of taking the new MCAT haha. I'm glad to hear such positive things about Saba. Rarely have I read anything negative about Saba on this forum.i have to admit though...I am nervous of being homesick. Not so much about the partying considering my dance moves never did me any favors in the past anyways . All joking aside although I am interested in internal med, I'm shooting for ophthalmology which is crazy comp. I've found a few residencies that have accepted img in the past or current img but they are SGU or Ross . No Saba....but yea I agree it's what you put in. Thank you again

    Keep in mind the DO and MD match is supposedly being combined in a few years. A lot more DO schools have opened in recent years and some new MD schools have also opened. This will put IMGs at a clear disadvantage as the number of new residency spots are not (at this rate) going to keep up with the number of American students.

    I predict less and less IMGs matching over next few years.

    However, like I mentioned earlier, Saba, SGU provides you the opportunity. What you put in, you get out. We do generally well during clinicals, knowing that we have to put in that extra effort to try and match.

    I wanted to share this with you so you are also aware of risks in the future applying to Saba or SGU. Research thoroughly!

    For me, Saba was one of best and exp I've had.

    Good luck!
     
  7. Sam12345 said:

    Attrition rate at SABA

    Quote Originally Posted by J.MD View Post
    Keep in mind the DO and MD match is supposedly being combined in a few years. A lot more DO schools have opened in recent years and some new MD schools have also opened. This will put IMGs at a clear disadvantage as the number of new residency spots are not (at this rate) going to keep up with the number of American students.

    I predict less and less IMGs matching over next few years.

    However, like I mentioned earlier, Saba, SGU provides you the opportunity. What you put in, you get out. We do generally well during clinicals, knowing that we have to put in that extra effort to try and match.

    I wanted to share this with you so you are also aware of risks in the future applying to Saba or SGU. Research thoroughly!

    For me, Saba was one of best and exp I've had.

    Good luck!
    Thanks for sharing information on the school. I was wondering if you can give some figures on the attrition rate for two years (5 semesters) and overall attrition rate in 4 years. How many people enrolled in a year and how many successfully graduate with MD. I am considering SABA for the May class and have an interview in a week. Any tips? Thanks.
     
  8. J.MD said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Sam12345 View Post
    Thanks for sharing information on the school. I was wondering if you can give some figures on the attrition rate for two years (5 semesters) and overall attrition rate in 4 years. How many people enrolled in a year and how many successfully graduate with MD. I am considering SABA for the May class and have an interview in a week. Any tips? Thanks.
    Hi Sam,

    Congratulations on your considering SABA.

    As for attrition rate, I am probably not the best person to be asking as its been about nearly 2-3 years since I've been out. Let me start off by saying that most people who leave the island are successful as long as there are no red flags on their record (failed boards, etc).

    Each semester, I would say an average of 90-100 came. Depending on the year/semester, 50-60 (on average?) finished? SABA was not easy, but it forced us to work our ***** off.

    If you do decide to choose SABA, another advice I would give is to hang around the positive people. You'll hear stories of some classmates complaining about how high the attrition rate is and how all of the profs are out to get you, etc. Hanging around negative people will suck you down. Avoid them like the plague and move on.

    Good Luck!
     
  9. lightningstrike said:
    Congrats on the match.

    I'm currently a 2nd semester on the island, and the stats about attrition are around the same as it is today. Passing grades are now 70% in classes, and its very doable if you are willing to put in the necessary work.

    Quick question regarding residency matching timelines, were you or any friends from a september class and did they find it reasonable to match in a 4 year timeline (e.g. sept 2014 student, matching in 2018)?

    I also wanted to ask if during clinicals, either core or electives, did you have decent opportunities to gain research experience?
     
  10. J.MD said:
    Quote Originally Posted by lightningstrike View Post
    Congrats on the match.

    I'm currently a 2nd semester on the island, and the stats about attrition are around the same as it is today. Passing grades are now 70% in classes, and its very doable if you are willing to put in the necessary work.

    Quick question regarding residency matching timelines, were you or any friends from a september class and did they find it reasonable to match in a 4 year timeline (e.g. sept 2014 student, matching in 2018)?

    I also wanted to ask if during clinicals, either core or electives, did you have decent opportunities to gain research experience?
    Thank you lightning!

    Yes, you should be able to match in a reasonable time as long as you have a schedule/plan. The research paper that Saba makes you do can be a road bump as it took some people a long time to get done / approved (horrible imo). You werent allowed to schedule your rotations until that is completed. Again, don't sacrifice your board scores to rush. A number of people were able to match, some sort of got lower scores than they would have wanted (so people say ...). Just have your step 2 and CS completed before submitting your application for residency interviews BEFORE September. Plan ahead and schedule early early early. Have Kaplan CS done late winter, january, February as Saba won't let you schedule the CS until they receive a passing mark. Spots fill up fast for Kaplan CS too, so don't get screwed.

    I was able to get some research done and have a few things submitted for posters, national conferences, and future publications. You have to be proactive about pursuing research and trying to get things submitted. Case presentations are excellent op. If you see an interesting case, ask the resident/attending. You may have to do a more thorough work up to make sure all basis are covered to get published.

    Thanks, good luck!
     
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