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  1. MDIN2009's Avatar

    MDIN2009 said:

    Florida

    64B8-4.018 International Medical Graduates; Qualification Requirements.
    (1) Before any graduate of a medical school not accredited by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education, except a graduate of an accredited school in Canada, is admitted to take the written licensure examination or be licensed by endorsement, he or she must demonstrate that the core clerkships received in the United States as a part of the curriculum of the medical school was obtained either in a hospital affiliated with a medical school accredited by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education and the affiliation includes the provision of core clerkship training for that medical school in the relevant subject area or in a hospital which had, at the time the clerkship training was obtained, a residency program accredited by the Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education in the specialty area in which the clinical training was being obtained.
    (2) For purposes of this rule, the term “core clerkships” means core rotations in medicine, surgery, obstetrics-gynecology, and pediatrics. Each clerkship must be equivalent in duration and substance to the core clerkships offered by the medical school to its regular students.
    (3) An applicant to whom the provisions of subsection (1) would otherwise be applicable may be admitted to take the written licensure examination or be licensed by endorsement if he or she demonstrates one of the following:
    (a) That, after receipt of the medical degree, he or she obtained core clerkship training in the United States in the specific areas of core rotations which had not met the requirements of subsection (1), which training was obtained either in a hospital affiliated with a medical school accredited by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education and the affiliation included the provision of core clerkship training for that medical school in the relevant subject specialty area or in a hospital which had, at the time the clerkship training was obtained, a residency program accredited by the Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education in the specialty area in which the clinical training was being obtained.
    (b) That, after receipt of the medical degree, he or she returned to the school which granted the medical degree and obtained core clerkship training in the country in which the school is physically located and in the specific subject area or areas of core rotation or rotations which had not met the requirements of subsection (1), which training would have been acceptable to the Board if it had been included as a integral part of the undergraduate medical education.
    (c) That the applicant has successfully completed one year of approved residency training in the exact subject area or areas for which the core clerkship or clerkships had not met the requirements of subsection (1). For purposes of this provision, the one year of residency training relied upon for eligibility herein shall be completed in addition to the internship required by Section 458.311(1)(f)3.c., F.S.
    (d) That the applicant has successfully completed three progressive years of approved residency training, (PGY I, II, and III) in one specialty area.
    Specific Authority 458.309, 458.311, 458.313(4) FS. Law Implemented 458.311, 458.313(4) FS. History–New 11-28-84, Amended 3-13-85, Formerly 21M-22.18, Amended 5-18-86, Formerly 21M-22.018, 61F6-22.018, 59R-4.018.
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    MDIN2009 said:
    Basically we can get licensed in FL. Temp license during residency and permanent after three years. Plus we have a resident there...

    I will try to make as many threads on each state that I can with the current State Law and clinical sites we have. Also if we have a resident, I will post that information as well. If you think you can help please look up your state and make a thread accordingly.

    First start a new Thread.

    So the format should be:

    Thread Title : State Name

    First post: State Law or link to state medical licensing law.

    Second post : Link to Windsor Resident

    Third post: Clinical Sites.


    I have taken FL...if you want please take one of the other states and start a thread.

    FL, IL, OH, MI, GA, WI, VA, TN, ME, AL, OK, MN, AR, NV, CT, MO ,NY
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    windsorMD said:
    from what i understand, basically FL says that if your core rotations are not clerkships at ACGME sites, then the residency we do will make up for it?....
    and since our transcript says that we did rotations at JNF and Windsor University Affiliated Hospitals, will that meet the requirements for subsections 3A and 3B ?
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    MDIN2009 said:
    What they are saying is that , if you did not do ACGME rotations. Meaning non-ACGME clerkships.

    As long as you do clerkships....they do not have to be Greenbook/ ACGME.



    Quote Originally Posted by windsorMD View Post
    from what i understand, basically FL says that if your core rotations are not clerkships at ACGME sites, then the residency we do will make up for it?....
    and since our transcript says that we did rotations at JNF and Windsor University Affiliated Hospitals, will that meet the requirements for subsections 3A and 3B ?
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    AUCMD2006 said:

    not really

    Quote Originally Posted by windsorMD View Post
    from what i understand, basically FL says that if your core rotations are not clerkships at ACGME sites, then the residency we do will make up for it?....
    and since our transcript says that we did rotations at JNF and Windsor University Affiliated Hospitals, will that meet the requirements for subsections 3A and 3B ?
    not really the above rules are pretty standard for most states and it doesn't mean that a windsor affiliated observership or rotation nescessarily counts or that any deficiencies will be made up by residency.

    the above defines what a "core" clerkship is. the rotation has to be affilieated with a medical school that is LCME (a US or canadian medical school) or it has to have a residency in the rotation you are doing (i.e a greenbook rotation)

    3 years of residency do not "make up for it" every state/territory has a requirement to get an unrestricted medical license. they all seperate US grads, foreign grads and DO's with their own reqs. Wisconsin and guam will grant you a license after one year residency regardless of US or IMG. many will grant US gards permanent license after 1 year, for us there are a handfull that will do it after 2 years but most actually require 3 years of residency in one specialty to apply for an unrestricted license.

    additinally there are usmle requirements, alaska will actually only license you if you have not failed any of the usmle exams if i recall. many have limits on pass attempts and there are also time limits, standard is 7 yrs to complete all.

    now florida is not a "tough" state to practice. it is paperwork intensive though. one of my co residents, a UWI grad aka a real foreign med school, needed more than 5 months to get it done. they were requesting high school transcripts from what she said and double checking everything first source.
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  6. MDIN2009's Avatar

    MDIN2009 said:
    But, Windsor affiliated clerkships do count...even if they are not Greenbook/ACGME.

    (2) For purposes of this rule, the term “core clerkships” means core rotations in medicine, surgery, obstetrics-gynecology, and pediatrics. Each clerkship must be equivalent in duration and substance to the core clerkships offered by the medical school to its regular students.

    Meaning any WSOM student doing rotations in the US should have the equivalent duration and substance as JNF in st.kitts.

    (3) An applicant to whom the provisions of subsection (1) would otherwise be applicable may be admitted to take the written licensure examination or be licensed by endorsement if he or she demonstrates one of the following:

    An applicant who demonstrates section one can apply for a license in FL. Or be licensed with a special endorsement if he or she demonstrates one of the following sub sections (A-D).


    (d) That the applicant has successfully completed three progressive years of approved residency training, (PGY I, II, and III) in one specialty area.

    And this is the sub-section that Windsor Grads would fall under. Thus our current resident in FL.


    Quote Originally Posted by AUCMD2006 View Post
    not really the above rules are pretty standard for most states and it doesn't mean that a windsor affiliated observership or rotation nescessarily counts or that any deficiencies will be made up by residency.

    the above defines what a "core" clerkship is. the rotation has to be affilieated with a medical school that is LCME (a US or canadian medical school) or it has to have a residency in the rotation you are doing (i.e a greenbook rotation)

    3 years of residency do not "make up for it" every state/territory has a requirement to get an unrestricted medical license. they all seperate US grads, foreign grads and DO's with their own reqs. Wisconsin and guam will grant you a license after one year residency regardless of US or IMG. many will grant US gards permanent license after 1 year, for us there are a handfull that will do it after 2 years but most actually require 3 years of residency in one specialty to apply for an unrestricted license.

    additinally there are usmle requirements, alaska will actually only license you if you have not failed any of the usmle exams if i recall. many have limits on pass attempts and there are also time limits, standard is 7 yrs to complete all.

    now florida is not a "tough" state to practice. it is paperwork intensive though. one of my co residents, a UWI grad aka a real foreign med school, needed more than 5 months to get it done. they were requesting high school transcripts from what she said and double checking everything first source.
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    MDIN2009 said:

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    AUCMD2006 said:
    the rotations of hospitals in st kitts are 100% correct they count. i thought you meant roattions done in the US. all international rotations are counted as greenbook from what everyone says. i did all my rotations in the us at places with residency in the rotation including all my electives exceot neuro so i don;t know first hand...
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    windsorMD said:
    are all rotations through Windsor University affiliated with JNF hospital in St Kitts ?
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  10. cranialnerve007 said:
    I looked up Mr. H*** Patel's profile and it said that he did his residency at the internal medicine program at the University of Florida. My question is, in order for me to do residency at the University of Florida, would I have to do my rotations/core rotations in a hospital in Florida, or can I do my rotations in lets say a greenbook hospital in chicago, and then apply for residency in Florida?
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